Since i have downloaded 3.81 which was a long time ago (The Released version btw) I have not been able to see my timer without turning shaders off and Im thinking whats the point if i cant play it how i want -_- Anyone have a fix for this yet ive tried reinstalling it but it was no help

I think it may be either of two things:

1. It's a bug that needs yet to be fixed.

2. You have a pure timer.
But I wouldn't know about shaders and what-not, I don't use them.

Anyone Else ? Ill bump this forever if I have to

Yes, it's a bug.

You will find other bugs in this thead linked below. Report them if you come across any others.
http://forum.toribash.com/showthread.php?t=104382

Should be in the Support board. Rapid Threads is for quick questions, Support board is for troubleshooting Toribash or related issues.

2bash is correct. Just wait for the bug to be fixed. Rapid threads is for questions that aren't big enough for support. That's a support issue. Closed.