I<3 Nikelaos...
here's some quote. It's longer than "lol" or "fag", but if you manage to keep you interested for so long as to read it, you might possibly get something out of it, or a term to google, by yourself... (I mean the "discordia" here mainly)
Yo'
"terrorism is an act of using government methods, while not being a member of the government"
*good one, eh? ;p
Nikelaos says:
*it is
Sahee says:
*just thought it up.
Nikelaos says:
*that reminded me of something actually
Sahee says:
*well go ahead
Nikelaos says:
*the catholic church has something called, the 'just war theory' , under this theory one of the conditions of a 'just war' is that the war may only be instigated by a 'constituted public authority' (aka the government)
Sahee says:
*heh funny.
Nikelaos says:
*just one of many pieces of crap to come out of religion it seems
Sahee says:
*and thus leaving the opressed with no means - if one was to adhere to chuch's ways too much - to defend themselves.
Nikelaos says:
*it also states that a war cannot be just if you do not have a certain level of certain that you may win
Sahee says:
*
Nikelaos says:
*certainty*
Sahee says:
*well there might be something to it.
Nikelaos says:
*I've described ti slightly off, but basicly if you don't think you can eliminate the opposition comfortably with minimal loses, the war is not just
*which again seems to be on the side of the oppressors already in power
Sahee says:
*yea, as christianity promotes order.
*obedience.
*acceptance of the Earthly uncoveniences.
*no wonder, as THEY are here high in power as well.
*the status quo, of them having sheep trained to feel that being a sheep is the only good way of thinking and behaving,
*and given examples that going to slaughter is a godly deed...
*well they can both fuck off ;P
*sheep and the "shepherds"
*don't you think? ;)
Nikelaos says:
*yep
*as much as I believe that some level of order is necesarry, taking it to this level is (ironically) madness
Sahee says:
*yea, if it gets too much order the clock mechanism ceases to work.
*change is my preferable method of making life interesting, but normally, even "sane" people need their life "move" to really live...
*certain parts of their life.
*enough order to feel safe, but keep some parts of their life to move enough for them not to feel too stale. like a sheep.
Nikelaos says:
*yeah a fine balance needs to be met
*but right now the levels of order/chaos aren't spread so evenly, in some places too much order is holding back human life, whereas in others you got the war and shit as a result of what's needed to maintain that order
Sahee says:
*yea, as discordianism says, order and disorder are parts of bigger chaos
Nikelaos says:
*I like this religion, it seems pretty indy punk, aswell as kind of making sense but not making
Sahee says:
*let me look for a quote
*ok got it
*it says "all statements are true in some sense,
*false in some sense,
*meaningless in some sense
*true and false in some sense,
*true and meaningless in some sense
*and true and false and meaningless in some sense
*"
*end of quote ;p
*thus teachings of principia discordia are true in some sense,
*false in some sense...
*etc
Nikelaos says:
*there seems there could be some flaws in that however
*"I weigh less than Johnny Vegas"
*I can see the truth and meaninglessness in that sttement
*but false...
*though I guess if you don't take it so literally
Sahee says:
*oh it's not to be taken literaly, not all at once,
*it just says that there are many points of view.
Nikelaos says:
*yeah
Sahee says:
*just like with "the reality is original Rorschach" theory.
*damn I wanted to quote our convo on the forums
*but the amazingness of it spreads too long for their short attention spans, I guess...
Last edited by Sahee; Jan 4, 2010 at 03:13 AM.