Originally Posted by Soap

Umm. That was a badass CAKED UP remix if Miley Cyrus. If you didn't like that, you're insane.

also, I only listened to one of your songs, but it was awful, imo. Like, not only the quality of the music but the actual music. I like deathmetal, and metal in general, but that's like soft, confusing metal.

Originally Posted by TempIar

I didn't like it. None of her song lyrics are very good imo.

Originally Posted by Soap

It's not really about her voice lyrics.. It's about the mixing, the drum kits, the bass.

Originally Posted by Soap

That's pretty ignorant, to be blunt. I grew up listening to the same shit you did, no doubt. I guess I wasn't blinded by the idiocy of needing to listen to honky-tonk bullshit.

Originally Posted by TempIar

Maybe it is ignorant, but for music's sake, it used to take talent, not an auto-tune machine and a drum machine.

Originally Posted by Soap

You're saying making a good beat doesn't take talent? How do you think DJs make money? How do you think electronic musicians live in mansions? I don't even know how you could even think that, let alone say it out loud.

Originally Posted by TempIar

Because they Appeal straight to our sexual impulses. Every single beat they use is used to make a strong, constant rhythm That replicates the act of reproducing. The loud, constant sounds in turn make us agitated, and make us want to move about, making it incredible dancing music. The same thing was done with disco, r&b, Hip-Hop, and Rock and Roll. However, the new age music exploits it to a point of shame, and directly expresses it's desire to have you thinking about sex. Why? Because sex sells. Modern music is a gigantic sellout, and many artists openly acknowledge it. Primal urges> rational thinking, every time.

Also, to address how dj's make money: They follow a formula. Take nearly every one of Cyrus's songs: If you slow them down or speed them up enough, you can most likely make most of the beats match up. Many dj's do have their unique twist to it, but I assure you that you will find more similarities than differences.
Typed this while reading it aloud to myself.

Originally Posted by Soap

First of all, I'll address the sex sells thing. Even if what you're saying were true, it doesn't matter. It appeals to people, it appeals to me. Music is meant to entertain/excite people, and that kind of music does. Why would it matter how it does it?

Secondly, not all DJs make remixes. Not even the majority. So your argument has no substance. And there's a lot more than speeding up or slowing down to mixing. Distortion, when/where to put what kind of sound, etc.

Originally Posted by TempIar

Facts:


Modern music has terrible composition, due to lack of variation, repetition, and it doesn't conform to music theory.

Opinions:

It matters how it does it because music That is great is designed to lift the mind and, however you choose to take this, the soul. When music becomes timeless, It is because it makes us think, and makes us feel from places that we don't normally visit within ourselves. It Enlightens us. Classical Music is a great example of this, and due to it's enlightenment era inspiration, It focuses on the uplifting of thought and provokes very hard emotions, causing us to reflect upon what we do. This Is why classical music is still around. It doesn't reference pop culture or encourage us to be maniacs, but rather tells us to look at ourselves and improve ourselves. I can also give as examples Rush's 2112 Overture, Stairway to Heaven, Freebird, and most of the music made by Kansas. In fact, although Rock and Roll has pretty drastic sexual undertones, most of it at least encourages us to think about deeper meanings behind the words. Pink Floyd has so many meanings crammed into their songs that it isn't even funny.


The mainstream "new" music really just doesn't get that there is more to life than sex and money and power. I can certainly respect that viewpoint due to the times we live in, where spiritualism has all but faded away from the world, which is now nearly entirely materialistic. But I cannot condone it, as it has no personality or meaning beyond the singer's face.

Maybe they do have to change things around a lot, maybe I chose the wrong thing to target, referring to the dj's. They can have talent, but I say that the mainstream ones do not use that talent often.

These are my tastes and I'm sticking to em.