Originally Posted by
Hours
faint can you just stop xD. "most of what you've complained about seems like issues and slacking on your side opposed to rng itself." how the fuck is it slacking if i'm literally doing almost everything i can in order to gear up? xD.
- "yeah guys, so i did this rare. i got an item drop, but it was some relic for another class."
- "dude stop slacking."
- "weell.. i also did three dungeons, but i only got gear which was either an downgrade, or another class artifact relic, again."
- "dude you're bad at the game, or you're just being lazy."
- "...?"
like let's say if would've upgraded my gear instead of saving resources. since i was at 804, i'd probably be 805, or 806 if i'm lucky after multible upgrades. that's not much profit imo.
if you don't believe i get 0 drops, i'll stream it if you wish. as i said, expecting better things from heroics, but i'll gladly stream my wq's and other things.
and i never said the reason to why we failed was because of the ilvl. i just said everyone was geared badly, and it was one of the sources to why we died all the time. other sources was the tank who couldn't keep aggro on normal mobs. he didn't pull mobs out of aoe circles which you had to do. the healer wasn't really good at all and started giving heals when we dropped to 15% hp.
now i've got one more part from the class hall, which is a chest. i don't know what you've played, but i've been on the class hall things as much as i can. or well, i do think i skipped like a day of it.
i was off surumar quests for a bit, but went through alot of them today. didn't really get anything interesting, but i'm not going to say it isn't going to help me later on. i'm sure it will.
and to the resources thing, yeah. i could actually go out and do wq's for it. i'm not even going to say i haven't been lazy on that part, because i have.
and oh, about guilds. i'm in a friends' guild. we're not pushing raids or dungs. it's just something we'll do off time, so that is something i also can do something about, but won't. i'm not going to say i'm not doing something wrong when it comes to that part.
i have better hopes for heroics, since i've always been that guy who learns the tactics and knows what to stay out of/inside of/behind. now can we stop talking about it? a friend of mine says legion is too rng based, but he didn't have the problems i have, and have geared up to 821 as of writing this. he's saying legion is well rng based as well. i'm not going to say you are wrong, but i'm going to agree with his opinion, due to personal experience which has been well shared here.
sorry but if you've been doing 'everything' you can do to gear up, you would be close to 840 if not above 840 just like literally everyone in my guild who has similar/the same playtime as i do. i'm talking about hundreds of hardcore raiders and also hundreds of very casual players as well, one of the guilds is for people who just want to join the community. there are close to 1000 or 2000 people actively playing every day spread across my 4 guilds, and not 1 of them are going through the same issue you are going through. have people complained about rng? sure, rng is always an issue, but no one is sitting there after more than a week of progression at 110 and saying "well still stuck below 810 because rng is fucking me over". yes, it is you slacking because if you weren't slacking then you would be doing upwards of 5-10 dungeons a day in attempts to gear up including wqs and class hall and artifact stuff, not a few dungeons since you've hit 110. in what you just typed out, you are perfectly explaining progression and how progression works in terms of rng. if you say that you've done 3 dungeons and haven't really gotten any upgrades, then go do 3 more. hell, go do 20 more because 3 dungeons clearly isn't going to boost your ilvl at all.
would you mind sharing dps charts from skada for those heroics you've said was everyone else's fault? i really hate tanking mythics on my warrior sometimes because there are people who sit at 80k dps, and it's great if you know your rotations and how to dps, but if you're only dpsing and not focusing on mechanics then this is almost worse than having low dps from my perspective.
yes - this expansion is rng based like
literally every single world of warcraft expansion, especially near the start. wqs are mostly random, sure, but if you've been 110 since the first week and have been checking wqs every day and doing the important ones you should at the very least have several 810+ pieces of gear, there were a ton of gear wqs early on.
also something that may help me - can you tell me what your /played is at level 110? my mage who is 845 is nearing 4 days at 110 and my warrior who is currently 822 is about 17 hours at 110 (yes, this is quicker than normal). i would like to assume that you're probably sitting at less than a day played time and that would probably make the most sense considering what you've told me (having done like 3 dungeons or whatever, and just now hitting your 3rd relic), but if you are sitting at 2+ days played, it is beyond clear that rng is not the problem.
and yeah i maybe shouldn't have gone into this as much as i have, but i really think what you're saying is straight out wrong. saying that rng has fucked you over and rng is the only reason hax and i are 830+ is silly. if you want as well, i can stream mythics or other stuff from my mage's perspective if you'd like to see what people expect dps-wise. also yeah, last thing i'm trying to say is that you're "lying" or something, it just seems like you're making excuses for half of the reasons you have a low ilvl.
Originally Posted by
Bodhisattva
I will say with what Faint said, I wanted to help a guildie gear up today to be nice. Want a solid group for raids when they come out. I took a screenshot, but he's a shitty warlock and he was only doing 58k dps. Im still a very big noob at my rotation but I was top dps heroic violet at 178k
Today I'm doing all retro raids for mounts/transmog and I'm
Doing BGs for drops. Just waiting for the weekly reset.
Still no 3rd relic, so that'll be huge.
nice man, 178k average is great. warlocks are probably the worst pve class right now so it's not totally his fault. rogues have pretty huge dps right now, and if you're pulling 178k average you're fine for mythics. try doing some of the easier ones like darkheart or eye, just make sure you know what to do for each boss and try to avoid mechanics as opposed to just spamming cds. if you were alliance i would run a few with you because they're really a lot easier than people think, i was doing the easier ones at 800 on my mage the first few days.
would people be interested in me streaming the content? i do most mythic runs with my guild but i can stream pugs or wqs or heroics or whatever as well, lemme know.
Last edited by Faint; Sep 12, 2016 at 03:10 AM.