Originally Posted by
Deprived
Btw I'm not too woried about Ashe - simply because she is one of the squishest carries along with the fact most melee carries can simply out damage her and have no problem getting to her with their abilities.
Also veigar was viable before on 5 v 5 as a mage carry.
Have you seen what hawkshot does? 2500 range at rank 1 vision ward that costs no mana and extends to like fucking 4000 range. It makes her a hard counter to jungling, stealth champs, and any attempt at a gank, ever. It's better than Clairvoyance.
Veigar was not viable as a mage carry, you are insane. He only dealt significant damage to certain characters, and his w was incredibly dodgable. Even if you did get caught, cleanse or flash got you off scot free. His new R is one of the biggest things that's going to make him a heavy nuker.