I'm not speaking on behalf of any staff and this isn't a staff opinion, this is just my own opinion on the subject as I feel like I have some level of understanding:
I was in Inq at one point. Actually I can very vividly remember being in Inq due to a good relationship with LightningKid and how there was this large but exciting separation in clan tags between people with [Inq] who were newer and the pretty famous at the time [i] tag for those who had "earned" it in some capacity.
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Some points for including Inq into torilegend status:
1) A team is a sum of it's parts and many of its parts are and were legends
2) It DID have a positive impact on the community. Mwah brought up how many people in [NO] such as hanz0 did a lot for the community. It can't be understated that Inq also did. I can't think of a user who embodied activity and presence in Clan Squad more than LK and most of it's members were at one point or another active and giving Promo Team members or founders of MSquad, etc.
3) It did have a very long history and survivability.
4) They did win Clan League. Which, if you're not in a Clan named Alpha (who obviously should get legend should they choose to die or should the legend team decide non-dead people can get legend), winning Clan League is an extraordinarily rare feat.
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Reasons
Some reasons to NOT make Inq legend:
1) Yes they won clan league, but if I recall correctly that was sort of a dubious situation. I think there was some staff shenanigans at the time of their victory and the format. Not to mention it just wasn't at the level of a competitive of an event as it would become in the future.
2) Someone else brought this up: Just because a legend was or wasn't in Inq doesn't mean they were core to the identity of Inq. War_Hero is a great example. The type of people who made Inq incredible are names that mean a lot to me but sure as hell have no staying power in popularity nowadays. People from 2010 don't know who Snide_the_Clyde, AlexOwnz, KingBosh, Uric, etc. were. To me they were close to the level of importance as some bncy members but with none of the notoriety and staying power.
3) It may have lived for 10 years or so but it died a lot earlier than that. And what I mean by that is - people like Toxic, who was an active player, joined a shell of Inq. If you joined Inq after Lord_Inquisitor stopped playing (which was what... 2011? at best?) did you really join Inq? Some clans have evolved over time into their own unique entity that stands on their own apart from their past - it's cool lots of people know RelaxAll for Killer3366 and Rcarey instead of say Sahee and Kickass because RelaxAll reinvented itself in ways and maintained some form of relevance, but Inq didn't. Inq's notoriety died off like Bncy, like ToriGod, like HUNG, etc. but with none of the staying power and fame and cool mind bending players that some of those other groups had.
bncy is one of the WEAKEST clans to have gotten torilegend by what I would've drawn the line (still I'd say yes) at but at least plenty of people know of it's core members. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if people who joined Toribash 5 years ago had no damn clue who was LightningKid is and he's one of the most famous members that clan had that actual embodied it.
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Conclusion:
If I had a vote, I wouldn't have actively objected to Inq getting legend. But I'm far from heartbroken that they didn't get it. [NO] is definitely more famous. As is [bncy]. As is [RAWR]. And [T]. And [Urban]... etc. I can't really see a single legend clan on the list that Inq was more relevant than in the span of TB history.
Last edited by Bodhisattva; Dec 30, 2019 at 11:54 PM.