I'm more on the laissez-faire side here. Toribash is hardly a game at its current state, in fact I've treated it primarily as a community as far as I can remember. Yeah, the game is fun, but there aren't many users who can make it past year one with perfect attendance ingame. The forums only get more popular, though. Sure, I might think that because I quit the community right when Hampa started frequently updating the game, but how many of you can say that you spend more time in Toribash than in its forums? My point is that expecting a clan to play ingame rather than just hanging out in the forums is hardly realistic. It's just my opinion though.