Originally Posted by
Kraetyz
Oh man, I wish I'd taken philosophy. Too bad I study actual things, though. :(
I go to a Catholic university and it is a mandatory course. It works differently. I assume you can pick all of your courses?
We pick 'directions' which are preset packets of courses. You can not pick courses from one 'direction' and combine it with courses from another 'direction'. You need to have passed every course in the packet of that 'direction', to receive the diploma in that 'direction'. Some 'directions' do share courses, though. Anatomy, for example. In some years, you can choose between a set of two or three courses, but they are all related. For example, in the next years, I will be able to 'specialise' in oncology, neurology, research methods, ..., but I can't pick something crazy like literature or history of music: that's literally not allowed.
For example, I chose the 'direction' 'biomedical sciences'
The courses of the first semester, in order of importance (which is measured in 'credit points'): chemistry (11), physics (8), maths (5), biology (5)
Second sem: molecular biology and biochemistry (11), anatomy (8), cell biology (7), philosophy (5).
The sum is 60. One point corresponds with 15-25 hours of 'work'. Work includes lectures as well as time spent on the course at home. Ever 'direction' is worth 60 points for one year. A bachelor's degree is 180 points (240 for medicine), and a master's degree is 60-300 depending on the master. The points are actually your 'credit' to study:
You start with 140 points. Everybody. You 'pay' 60 points if you start a new year. Every exam that you pass, you get the points back (for example, I passed all exams last semester, I get back 29 points = sum of the value of my courses). If you do not pass, you lose the points permanently and have to do the course again. Redoing the course will again cost you the points.
However, during your first year, points are paid back twice! So if you pass all during your first year, you paid 60 and get back 120 points, which nets you at 200 points (because you still had 80). So you 'invest' the points a course 'costs', and then get it back if you indeed succeed.
You can not start a year with less than 60 points. Why? Because every year has 60 points worth of courses, and education is free here, and you're studying with taxpayer's money. If you're shit and fail all, you're not allowed to study anymore.
After you complete a master's degree, you will lose 140 points permanently. That means that, if you were a model student and passed all from the first try, you end with 60 points and a master's degree. In theory, you COULD start a new bachelor's degree, but ONLY if you are a model student. After that master, you end up with 60-140=-80 points. You then get 5 points per year of not-studying back. So you could, in theory, come back after 26 years and start anew.
The sum of all my lab hours and lectures is 550 hours. I think I spent about 500 hours at home.
Philosophy is a course that
every direction has in the first year. It can not be avoided if you go to this university. We also have a mandatory theology course in the third year.
tl;dr: YEA BUT AT LEAST I SUCCEED
Last edited by Arglax; Jun 23, 2014 at 10:16 PM.