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brood is autowin by herself, why need dazzle? Incapacitating bite is one of the best scaling skills in the entire game.
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offlane brood is easier now, but shes still shit overall.
horrible damage and stat gain, adds nothing to the team.
cannot win a lane and cannot gank.

sure you can get a soul ring and sit in a tree and steal a few creeps, but unless its a 1v1 situation, the enemy safe lane gets total free farm.

and contrary to what gorman says, because of her stat gain, she is one of the worst scaling heroes in the game.
in the long run, Id much rather have a clinkz than a brood, just many other better heroes than brood.

Originally Posted by JellyNinja View Post
So, I'm going to try this, something special I should know?
Also a good starter, who could that be?

depends, did you play LoL?
id suggest play a support while youre learning, Crystal Maiden, lich etc.
make sure you always have wards and sentries, dont be stingy with your gold, buy couriers, dust, smoke and all that shit.
get a magic wand
then harass enemy heroes and let the carry get ALL the farm.
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Yeah I do play LoL, well, was a while ago, but fairly experienced when it comes to mobas.
Also thanks guys, I'll deffo give it a shot.
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post
offlane brood is easier now, but shes still shit overall.
horrible damage and stat gain, adds nothing to the team.
cannot win a lane and cannot gank.

Haven't seen her played professionally, but in pubs she's a guaranteed lane win.
> can't be killed
> can't be harassed
> reliably takes LH
> constant threat
> pushes towers
> farms jungle at the same time

Her stat gain isn't too bad, and she is vulnerable to magic burst, but if you just have good positioning... Unless they have BH or slardar they will have no hope of ever finding you.

She can gank, just walk up, drop a web, bam, walk through trees/walls/cliffs to get to the fight. Alternately, save your web for escaping if things get hairy. But I wouldn't say she is primarily a ganker.
Originally Posted by BenDover View Post
sure you can get a soul ring and sit in a tree and steal a few creeps, but unless its a 1v1 situation, the enemy safe lane gets total free farm.

300 damage every 10 seconds + constant threat of trap is a pretty huge harassment tool. Now days I don't even worry about detection, start off with ring of regen + soulring recipie, and get your soulring before you hit level 3. If the enemy don't get detection then most of their CC won't even work on you beyond the 2 second fade time. If you go tranquils second, you can easily get over 20 hp/s regen - even if they harass you won't be even slightly afraid. Plus that lane is constantly under threat, and there's very little they can do about it without specialist heroes. You just hide in the trees or at a cliff at the edge of the map if they come close. In terms of lane preassure, she can't match NP's versatility, but she's a gauranteed tower taker.

Also, once you start making a ring of web to the other lanes you can easily pressure multiple lanes.

Originally Posted by BenDover View Post
and contrary to what gorman says, because of her stat gain, she is one of the worst scaling heroes in the game.

Web scales (35% ms + noclip), incapacitating bite scales (40% slow + 60% miss chance [making it the single best suitability skill for 1v1, with butterfly enemies have 26% chance to hit]), hunger scales (80% lifesteal that you can keep up 1/3 of the time).
Originally Posted by BenDover View Post
in the long run, Id much rather have a clinkz than a brood, just many other better heroes than brood.

But brood isn't a ganker, they aren't competing for the same role.
<Faint> the rules have been stated quite clearly 3 times now from high staff
if they arent getting sentries, they arent doing their job right.
incapacitating bite is great, but not enough imo, without a bkb, the vamp can be nullified completely.

i highly disagree with you about clinks and brood not competing for the same role, brood isnt a good carry and cant mid, and really needs a bkb to last through the ulti.

that means brood is an offlaner that needs both an orchid and bkb befor she can be effective, which takes way too long.
its a hero that needs safelane farm, but her skill tree isnt suited for it.
the only thing brood does well is pushing, and even then, without the items to back her up, shes easilly stopped, put her against a half decent lane, and she falls to pieces.

sure in a pubstomp with a decent mid, on a hero like puck or pudge, brood can be great, but as a reliable choice in higher level games, not so much, I personally havent seen a brood pick up in games ive played in months.

the buffs to web and bite have made her better, but still not good enough imo, i just dont rate her.
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post
if they arent getting sentries, they arent doing their job right.

Even if they get them they can't kill her, and she will still get a gauranteed last hit every 10 seconds, and can micro spiders after that, it's a bother to constantly kill spiders and it greatly increases the difficulty of the lane.

Originally Posted by BenDover View Post
i highly disagree with you about clinks and brood not competing for the same role, brood isnt a good carry and cant mid, and really needs a bkb to last through the ulti.

that means brood is an offlaner that needs both an orchid and bkb befor she can be effective, which takes way too long.
its a hero that needs safelane farm, but her skill tree isnt suited for it.
the only thing brood does well is pushing, and even then, without the items to back her up, shes easilly stopped, put her against a half decent lane, and she falls to pieces.

Dunno haven't seen her played pro, but in pubs you can't die because you aren't getting counterpicked. Against most teams it's as simple as walking through a tree.
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bloodseeker is usefull, especially for spotting out low hp heroes in the bush.
and rupture is a great counter to blink heroes.
we pick him up everytime someone picks antimage.

also, gief steam name alpha, i can live with playing on the EU servers
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