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Originally Posted by Fluttershy View Post
Zeus: The council previously had permission to invite, but not anymore. Could I ask the reason why?

And If we've always kicked banned members, what has changed? Why must we add exceptions?

then please explain why we didn't kick kami (who should have been kick on numerous occasions) for his porn links or hulk for his porn links
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Originally Posted by Fluttershy View Post
Zeus: The council previously had permission to invite, but not anymore. Could I ask the reason why?

And If we've always kicked banned members, what has changed? Why must we add exceptions?

also I think something happened when mercy started complaining about how others besides him have war perms and zeus took everyones war perms off except mercy's and my own. I think he may have accidently switched all perms off for you guys. I for one don't get why we can have war perms especially since we are all higher in rank than him.
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Originally Posted by Satan View Post
Whilst being a little overly aggressive, he makes some very valid points.

Well, thank you and it may seem aggressive, but if I have to sound a little aggressive because i have a certain viewpoint on something then so be it. Also there is the fact that if someone scams it shows us their moral standards. What keeps them from screwing the clan over for a couple hundred thousand tc? Not saying they would, but it raises doubts on the fact of them being a trustworthy member.
So if I hadn't come on my alt and posted when I was framed for a decap rig you guys would have kicked me from the clan. While I hadn't shown my side of the story yet. I'm thinking that the person who is banned must post their side of a story before we remove them from the clan. Like a court of law. I had my ban appealed luckily so if they are telling the truth they should have their ban appealed in a week or so. If they are lying, they obviously won't have their ban appealed after a week and we can remove them from the clan. With them also being known among us as a liar. If they are banned and have their ban appealed then they should have one more chance to stay and if they are banned again they will be kicked automatically from the clan, no questions asked. If they admit to the crime that they committed it should result in a demotion down to a trial member rank as soon as they are unmanned and keep them there until we can trust them again.
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Originally Posted by Bercat View Post
So if I hadn't come on my alt and posted when I was framed for a decap rig you guys would have kicked me from the clan. While I hadn't shown my side of the story yet. I'm thinking that the person who is banned must post their side of a story before we remove them from the clan. Like a court of law. I had my ban appealed luckily so if they are telling the truth they should have their ban appealed in a week or so. If they are lying, they obviously won't have their ban appealed after a week and we can remove them from the clan. With them also being known among us as a liar. If they are banned and have their ban appealed then they should have one more chance to stay and if they are banned again they will be kicked automatically from the clan, no questions asked. If they admit to the crime that they committed it should result in a demotion down to a trial member rank as soon as they are unmanned and keep them there until we can trust them again.

finally someone gets it
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Originally Posted by Bercat View Post
So if I hadn't come on my alt and posted when I was framed for a decap rig you guys would have kicked me from the clan. While I hadn't shown my side of the story yet. I'm thinking that the person who is banned must post their side of a story before we remove them from the clan. Like a court of law. I had my ban appealed luckily so if they are telling the truth they should have their ban appealed in a week or so. If they are lying, they obviously won't have their ban appealed after a week and we can remove them from the clan. With them also being known among us as a liar. If they are banned and have their ban appealed then they should have one more chance to stay and if they are banned again they will be kicked automatically from the clan, no questions asked. If they admit to the crime that they committed it should result in a demotion down to a trial member rank as soon as they are unmanned and keep them there until we can trust them again.

I think it depends.
If someone in the clan has abused/bullied someone else and there is evidence. They should be kicked. There isn't really an excuse to act that way.
Until they prove they won't do it again, or make amends, they will not be allowed back.

For cases like Bercat's where there is a grey area, then the kick should wait until the decision about the ban is finalized.
If there is even a slight doubt about the case, then I agree, any kicks should wait.
Originally Posted by Blue View Post
I think it depends.
If someone in the clan has abused/bullied someone else and there is evidence. They should be kicked. There isn't really an excuse to act that way.
Until they prove they won't do it again, or make amends, they will not be allowed back.

For cases like Bercat's where there is a grey area, then the kick should wait until the decision about the ban is finalized.
If there is even a slight doubt about the case, then I agree, any kicks should wait.

Thats pretty obvious. The issue at hand here is that there isn't a 'their side' in these cases, they purposely tried to back out of a fight they weren't going to win, simply because they didn't want to lose their items/money. I'm not saying 'kick them straight away', that's a pretty stupid thing to do.
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Originally Posted by Satan View Post
Thats pretty obvious. The issue at hand here is that there isn't a 'their side' in these cases, they purposely tried to back out of a fight they weren't going to win, simply because they didn't want to lose their items/money. I'm not saying 'kick them straight away', that's a pretty stupid thing to do.

Actually he finished the fight and lost, then didn't pay up. There is also the fact that there is no gray area because he admitted to doing it.
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