Originally Posted by Arglax
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In a game where spells scale with gold? In a game that hugely depends on teamwork? MOBA's are TEAM GAMES. That's like saying that whenever your team loses a soccer game, it's solely your fault. It's absolute bullshit. I want to see you win a game, where I and three of my friends are absolutely doing our best to fuck shit up. Was that your fault? Well, according to your logic, yes. You didn't carry.
because you can carry alone, and if you lose it's your fault you didn't carry hard enough
your adc is a complete moron, you force him to carry(peel super hard etc if you are supp/top)
you're a mid laner but your jungler is a monkey both in-game and IRL, you push your lane, spam pings and try to search for the enemy jungler together, if he can't think for himself, you're gonna have to think for him.
your support keeps stealing those CS and being a sitting duck in lane, you focus on harassing the enemy adc and getting the tower asap so you can roam mid.
obviously there's games that can't be won(multiple trolls and afkers) but if your teammates are just bad, if they're just horrible at the game, but not being afk, and not trolling hard, then it's a winnable game and if you lose it's your fault.
also build mejai/occult if you're confident of your skills, it's easy to 1v5 games with them, i do that on my smurfs and it works out.
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it's a totally different scenario, not sure what point you are trying to prove right now.
it's been already confirmed long ago that if you want to win soloq games you'll have to carry alone, and it's possible, in almost every game there's something you could've done better that maybe would've changed the outcome, it's about analyzing your gameplay and pointing out mistakes in order to not do them anymore, league(at least in soloq) is a game of who does more mistakes, you can have the mechanics of a duck until like platinum elo if you do few mistakes and punish the enemies for their misplays(missposition, bad dragon/baron calls etc.)
it's been already confirmed long ago that if you want to win soloq games you'll have to carry alone, and it's possible, in almost every game there's something you could've done better that maybe would've changed the outcome, it's about analyzing your gameplay and pointing out mistakes in order to not do them anymore, league(at least in soloq) is a game of who does more mistakes, you can have the mechanics of a duck until like platinum elo if you do few mistakes and punish the enemies for their misplays(missposition, bad dragon/baron calls etc.)
im good at league
i barely ever check this forum anymore, to reach me go to my twitter
To be super honest; getting out of bronze wasn't even difficult at all for me.
Not to say I'm very skilled; I'm only silver 1.
But if you're truly better than that; both teams have non cooperative idiots. The one person that makes the better decisions and makes the better plays for the team are really the ones that secure victory for their side.
So advise your team with pings, don't rage at them and if they make a mistake don't bother talking about it. You'll annoy them.
Play a role with more control/carry potential like jungle or mid.
Though to be fair in bronze any role is sufficient to work alone and still win. If your team are going to fight even when you don't want to, go with them. If you've played correctly in the first place unlike a bronzie you should be able to turn the fight in your favor by getting a key target focused or pinging the one your team should go for.
Well' gl.
Not to say I'm very skilled; I'm only silver 1.
But if you're truly better than that; both teams have non cooperative idiots. The one person that makes the better decisions and makes the better plays for the team are really the ones that secure victory for their side.
So advise your team with pings, don't rage at them and if they make a mistake don't bother talking about it. You'll annoy them.
Play a role with more control/carry potential like jungle or mid.
Though to be fair in bronze any role is sufficient to work alone and still win. If your team are going to fight even when you don't want to, go with them. If you've played correctly in the first place unlike a bronzie you should be able to turn the fight in your favor by getting a key target focused or pinging the one your team should go for.
Well' gl.
Last edited by souldevilj; Jun 24, 2014 at 02:02 PM.
It's also important to note that when your team is uncooperative, the enemy team has the exact same odds of being uncooperative. Over time, the occurances where you get a troll/leaver/afk/lag will be even to the times your opponents get a troll/leaver/etc.
The system doesn't discriminate, and people aren't specifically trolling only you unless you give them the reasons to. And games with trolls and afks are not unwinnable if you know how to talk, and you can back up the talk with good play. You can't change how your teammates or your opponents play, but time should even out the effects of luck, and if you're a truly good, non-toxic player, the odds are actually stacked IN your favor to win more often, solely because, assuming you are good and nice, your team has 4 slots for bad players while your opposing team has 5.
So if luck evens out, even slightly in your favor, the only feature that you can use to influence your game is your own attitude and play. I win 2 games on averave for every loss, and a lot of it is because I do everything I can to win, even if I mainly play support. I've carried lanes so that my adc gets big through my work. I've warded lanes that don't ward often enough so they die less from ganks. And I've stopped toxic players from dragging my team down 3 out of 3 times they happened. I've stopped a trist from trolling as adc, stopped an ap corki from afking, and stopped my entire team's infighting to push our advantages to win. Even with toxic players, the right approach can win you a game. Every game is winnable until your nexus is destroyed. Or in the immortal words of scarra: "(you're) winning the games until (you) lose it."
So suck it up. Team cooperation is a factor of luck that evens out over time and a neutral disposition. Luck always evens out with an average player, only what YOU do influences what happens to YOU in the long run.
The system doesn't discriminate, and people aren't specifically trolling only you unless you give them the reasons to. And games with trolls and afks are not unwinnable if you know how to talk, and you can back up the talk with good play. You can't change how your teammates or your opponents play, but time should even out the effects of luck, and if you're a truly good, non-toxic player, the odds are actually stacked IN your favor to win more often, solely because, assuming you are good and nice, your team has 4 slots for bad players while your opposing team has 5.
So if luck evens out, even slightly in your favor, the only feature that you can use to influence your game is your own attitude and play. I win 2 games on averave for every loss, and a lot of it is because I do everything I can to win, even if I mainly play support. I've carried lanes so that my adc gets big through my work. I've warded lanes that don't ward often enough so they die less from ganks. And I've stopped toxic players from dragging my team down 3 out of 3 times they happened. I've stopped a trist from trolling as adc, stopped an ap corki from afking, and stopped my entire team's infighting to push our advantages to win. Even with toxic players, the right approach can win you a game. Every game is winnable until your nexus is destroyed. Or in the immortal words of scarra: "(you're) winning the games until (you) lose it."
So suck it up. Team cooperation is a factor of luck that evens out over time and a neutral disposition. Luck always evens out with an average player, only what YOU do influences what happens to YOU in the long run.
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