Originally Posted by leyz
same thing used to be said about leblanc, too much risk not enough reward, you could ask anybody and no one would agree that she's strong enough for competitive environment, right now everybody figured she's actually the new op easily on the level with pre-rework kassadin. to top it off, leblanc's kit early-mid game also is very dependent on landing an e if you ever want to get any good damage in(unless you q-r-w of course which is almost never an option though because what idiot would allow you walk that close up for free), yet it doesn't prevent people from picking her up whenever she's open.
going to agree with leyz on this one
used to main ahri with numbers back in season 3 and we both had very high kda's and win-rates mainly because she was super strong at that point. after her nerf, i really started to hate her because i THOUGHT that due to popular belief she was not viable
i was wrong
ahri is very viable right now, same thing with leblanc. there's some sort of widespread belief that ahri is bad because you MUST hit her E; not true. she was nerfed, i agree, but not enough to where she isn't playable
Zilean:
Underpowered, or just underplayed?
Looking at his kit, I get that his early game is pretty shit. But most of his kit seems so damn useful. Permanently slowing/speeding up a target, a free HUGE revive. What's the story?
Underpowered, or just underplayed?
Looking at his kit, I get that his early game is pretty shit. But most of his kit seems so damn useful. Permanently slowing/speeding up a target, a free HUGE revive. What's the story?
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Originally Posted by DrHax
Zilean:
Underpowered, or just underplayed?
Looking at his kit, I get that his early game is pretty shit. But most of his kit seems so damn useful. Permanently slowing/speeding up a target, a free HUGE revive. What's the story?
no he actually has very strong laning phase if you dont die to ganks pre 6, main problem is ridiculous amount of mana expenditure, compared to him lulu(who, guess what, has almost identical tools in her kit) can be considered a manaless champion.
has a little bit lackluster mid game(mana and cooldowns) and a very good late game even despite a small shortage of damage
Originally Posted by Faint
going to agree with leyz on this one
used to main ahri with numbers back in season 3 and we both had very high kda's and win-rates mainly because she was super strong at that point. after her nerf, i really started to hate her because i THOUGHT that due to popular belief she was not viable
i was wrong
ahri is very viable right now, same thing with leblanc. there's some sort of widespread belief that ahri is bad because you MUST hit her E; not true. she was nerfed, i agree, but not enough to where she isn't playable
Her actual damage output was nerfed heavily without her landing her e. She doesn't hit pre-nerf damage without landing it. Combined with two spells that are auto-target based on proximity to the champion, and you can have some pretty unreliable spell damage. LeBlanc is at least consistent where you either land it all or you don't.
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Originally Posted by Oracle
Her actual damage output was nerfed heavily without her landing her e. She doesn't hit pre-nerf damage without landing it. Combined with two spells that are auto-target based on proximity to the champion, and you can have some pretty unreliable spell damage. LeBlanc is at least consistent where you either land it all or you don't.
yeah indeed she almost never is able to hit the pre-nerf amount of damage with her combos right now, and that's the whole point of the nerf, her pre-nerf damage was broken because it allowed you to literally 100-0 kill anything that is not a full tank, at any stage of the game(including in lane the moment you hit 6), but if you think leblanc has more reliable damage think of these:
- leblanc only has 2 dashes both of which take up 1 spell out of your combo and deal damage ONLY if you use them on top of enemies
- leblanc's e doesn't go through anything and will hit things like enemy front line and creep much unlike all of ahri's abilities except her e
- leblanc's q AND e require more than just using the spell and hitting it in order to deal the full damage, in one case you're required to follow it up with another ability, in the other spend 1.5 seconds more around the enemy which is never too safe and not always so easy for you if the enemy is not a potato
in terms of damage leblanc might have a tiny bit of an advantage in straight up numbers(base values, ratios and cooldowns), but she does not have any of the: triple dash on one ability, true damage aspect to one of the spells, percentage increase of magic damage on landed cc ability
