Originally Posted by Dargon
Or get out of this thread.
Even implying that you get better at LoL by playing is same as you'd say that: "To get better at Toribash you should play Phun/or any other physic based game".
..Which is pretty stupid.
And I'm not gonna tolerate any kind of LoL vs Dota vs HoN circlejerk in this thread.
If you really want to make a thread where you preach about Dota's superiority, sure feel free to go make one.
Your words are magical.
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Originally Posted by pinheads
currently my mmr is like platin 2. countering doesnt matter at all in soloq everywhere it seems. ofc there are some matchups you wont win with personal skill like pf idk taric vs gp but besides that its rlly meaningless which champ you play if you are comfortable with it. counters dont rlly exist imo
Counters do exist, problem is that they're way less effective than in Dota/Hon.
You can pick Teemo to counter Tryndamere, and it will work. But can you really shut down Trynda? I highly doubt that.
Also, I've noticed that in YoloQ most people lack balls to actually take advantage of having stronger pick for laning.
And in 99% of cases you can compensate against hard (counters) lanes with personal skill and knowledge.
Originally Posted by pinheads
i have to disagree. i think that lane > teamcomp. Stomping your lane creates pressure which is always better than teamcomp in soloq. i prefer to win games on my own rather than rely on my team.
In SoloQ the rule of thumb goes: "Hard initiate > everything".
Laning starts to be more important after mid Plat or so, but before that having CC is way more important than winning/countering your lane. If you don't destroy your laning opponent in laning phase and he/she has CC when you don't she/he'll be as usefull as you are.
(That's why I usually pick Malphite to top, to compensate my poor laning phase. Malphite also ruins enemy ADC's day. :3)
In 300 or so rankeds I've played I've seen countless SoloQ games where either team has thrown their lead in "teamfight phase" and lost the game due to another team having superior AoE/TF comp.
Originally Posted by Dargon
Counters do exist, problem is that they're way less effective than in Dota/Hon.
You can pick Teemo to counter Tryndamere, and it will work. But can you really shut down Trynda? I highly doubt that.
Also, I've noticed that in YoloQ most people lack balls to actually take advantage of having stronger pick for laning.
And in 99% of cases you can compensate against hard (counters) lanes with personal skill and knowledge.
In SoloQ the rule of thumb goes: "Hard initiate > everything".
Laning starts to be more important after mid Plat or so, but before that having CC is way more important than winning/countering your lane. If you don't destroy your laning opponent in laning phase and he/she has CC when you don't she/he'll be as usefull as you are.
(That's why I usually pick Malphite to top, to compensate my poor laning phase. Malphite also ruins enemy ADC's day. :3)
In 300 or so rankeds I've played I've seen countless SoloQ games where either team has thrown their lead in "teamfight phase" and lost the game due to another team having superior AoE/TF comp.
Hard disengage/counter-engage > Hard initiate.
I absolutely love playing as champions who can just stop teamfights dead, or turn them on their heads. There is nothing more satisfying that landing that 3-4 man cho'gath rupture, nami bubble/tidal wave, howling gale/monsoon or buster shot.
Speaking of nami, I FUCKING KNEW SHE WAS BROKEN! 70% pick/ban ratio and 70% win ratio in the OGN Summer.
I've been playing tons of ARAM lately because my teamfight positioning (especially as shorter ranged adcs) sucks balls. I THINK it's helping, but ARAMs are so much fun that I'm kind of reluctant to go back to regular games to test out my newfound prowess.
[02:19] <Dr_Strangelove> nearly 3 hours of nobody saying a word
[02:19] * Tamer0 is now known as TamerAfk
[02:19] <Dr_Strangelove> gg toribash
[02:19] <+hampa> gg
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[02:19] <Dr_Strangelove> gg toribash
[02:19] <+hampa> gg
Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove
Hard disengage/counter-engage > Hard initiate.
In 5 man premades yes, in soloq no.
Mostly because if people see Malphite/Amumu/Hecarim/Orianna getting that 5 man ult they will follow it up, but if you use perfect Janna ult/whatever they'll most likely keep fighting instead of disengaging & reengaging.
Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove
Speaking of nami, I FUCKING KNEW SHE WAS BROKEN! 70% pick/ban ratio and 70% win ratio in the OGN Summer.
Welcome to league of pre-nerf Sona. She wins the lane by being there, and then she has utility to carry her team in late game.
Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove
I've been playing tons of ARAM lately because my teamfight positioning (especially as shorter ranged adcs) sucks balls. I THINK it's helping, but ARAMs are so much fun that I'm kind of reluctant to go back to regular games to test out my newfound prowess.
3v3 is also pretty good for that purpose.
