Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
There is the chronology of the two quotes in question. There is no answer to my reply yet. That is what I want.
lol read my post again mate, I'm not sure what you thought I was saying but it should be obvious that the answer to your post is the post you were replying to.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
Like I said, there's a whole process that needs to happen in order to send her to prison. The short of it is that she needs to be impeached because that's how elected officials work and it's dumb. Order doesn't matter. She can either be impeached then imprisoned or imprisoned then impeached. But she wasn't at all because no one wanted to do all of that work, so they instead just changed the marriage license forms and told her to not get in the way in the future. There will be a general assembly in about three months and there will probably be a discussion about what to do with her then.
Oh ok
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
You're getting caught up on the difference between having a nation that is predominantly one thing, and declaring a nation that thing. Just for reference, what's your line where you stop saying that a certain race or religion is in the majority, and start declaring that it is a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, etc. nation?
I think the definition of "majority" should clarify that one.
Just FYI, USA is 70% Christian, 23% non-religious, and the next highest is 2% Judaism. There is absolutely no contest here.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
It was probably not the intention no, but it is certainly not excluding him. Even with just having "God" in there it includes a bunch of (mostly) Judeo-Christian religions.
Lol no, it refers exclusively to Yahweh, saying anything else is simply a modern (and unnecessarily liberal) interpretation.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
In your blind mockery of my choice of words, you seem to have forgotten that there is an actual discussion going on. Granted, this was part of that trollfest where you decided to avoid everyone's valid points by creating the longest strawman in the history of Discussion.
Tbh simply not true, the USA hasn't existed for thousands of years in the first place, so I don't know how the discussion of marriage thousands of years ago has merged into "ONLY THE USA".
It's a complete nonsense argument.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
Look at that strawman right there. I'm not arguing that sexuality made a difference in regard to marriage laws. I am arguing that gays could not marry who they wanted in the US until last month.
"The point is that heteros had the right to marry whoever they wanted, while homosexuals did not."
I dunno why you keep talking about sexuality when you aren't talking about sexuality then lol. Zoophiles/weebs can't marry whoever they want either, oh yeah because marrying animals/anime isn't a thing, imagine that!
Another nonsense argument.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
I'm gon' need summa dat sauce. Straight people had every right to marry the person that they loved, just so long as the other person consented. Up until last month, they had two options: not be married, or move to a state that recognized their marriage.
For the umpteenth time, this simply isn't true, this is outright lies. There was no sexuality checks in any marriage department anywhere in the world, there has been absolutely no proof that this ever happened.
Can we seriously just stop with this meme? Heterosexuals and homosexuals have ALWAYS had equal marriage rights. That's a fact, and tbh unless someone can bring up even a shred of proof beyond "no but I think homos are being repressed" then I'm not going to continue discussing it.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
The lobbyists you speak of are only organizations that advocate for the rights of LGBT people.
I'm sure LGBT lobbyists have nothing to do with gay agenda, you're 100% right, LGBT stands for what? Lawn, Gardening, Botany and Trees? Yeah those are the guys who want to have more botanical gardens and preserve rare species of orchids. They surely have no gay agenda.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
Please, tell me more about how you never said that gay marriage was a bad thing. Also I'm just using the same type of logic you used before. Can't criticize me without also saying you were in the wrong.
Hm, well, I never said gay marriage was a bad thing so I never said gay marriage was a bad thing............................................. ...........................................
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
It's not just Christians though. It's Christians that want to ban same-sex marriage. Looking at all of the polls conducted about same-sex marriage, every single one of them after 2011 show at least a simple majority, and the 2011 poll that broke the record was 45%|46%. If the US is 78% Christian, that means that on average, 2/3 of those polled in favor of same-sex marriage were Christians.
You think it has anything to do with those orchid people who will bully anyone who disagrees with their agenda? Surely not.
Doesn't really change the fact that "If you want to reduce this to gays vs Christians then I think Christians have an edge, being that there's a lot more Christians than gays and that they have been around a lot longer." though so not sure why you brought it up.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
Politics isn't just showing off. It seems like there's some drama going on between Turnbull and Abbott down there, so you may have forgotten that.
Great argument, compelling logic, 10/10 I am convinced
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
Religion is strangling the progress of science, so getting rid of religion would help with all of the science related things on the list. Religion is also the cause of that goatfuck in the middle east, so it would also really help towards solving that. And of course it would remove pretty much any argument against same-sex marriage. While that's not a priority for you, it is a nice bonus. That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are a couple more reasons why getting rid of religion is the first thing on that list.
Not sure who told you all that, but I'm not sure that any of it is true.
When was the last time any denomination even disagreed with any science? Did they disagree with NASA's findings on Enceladus? Did they brand the production of quark-gluon plasma as devil-worship? Did they label Yale's tree-counting team as heretics? Did they claim the Weyl fermion is a manifestation of Satan? Oh no wait, maybe the last time any denomination even cared about science was evolution?!?!
You know who royally fucks science more often and to a much bigger degree? The US Government. Remember what they did to NASA? That alone sets science back more than everything every religion has done in the entire history of man. You can feel free to argue that if you want, but really we both know it's the truth.