I dunno what kind of lanes you go up against when you play veno, but for any reasonable support if you see a solo hero with no supports it's a guaranteed lane win. Veno is good but only when he can safely trade up. Against a support he will trade evenly and be at risk from the roamer/tri/jungler/carrrywithastun. Unless veno can force his opponent to play defensively then in a lane he can't trade well IMO.

If you, a solo laner, die trading for a kill from a dual or trilane, then you are not trading efficiently since you will have more XP (and probably gold).



Abbadon is brutal in lane and he can shield people, remember he is a tanky support, so even if you ignore him he still impacts the fight.